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At-Home Refueling with compressed natural gas (CNG)?

GasBuddy Blog -- Chesapeake Energy Corp said it is working with General Electric Co and Whirlpool Corp to develop a $500 appliance that will allow natural-gas powered cars to be refueled at their owners' homes.

According to the Wall St. Journal, the effort would be Oklahoma City-based Chesapeake's latest push to promote compressed natural gas as a mainstream fuel and boost its own sales. It is the first attempt at overcoming one of the biggest challenges in putting natural-gas powered cars on the road—convenient refueling.

Just as many consumers are apprehensive about electric vehicles in some part because of the time required to charge batteries and the uncertainty of finding convenient places to re-charge, passenger vehicles fuled by...

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garywa01 Sophomore Author Alberta Posts:130 Points:376,815 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 9:34:05 AM Ignore garywa01 Report Abuse it will work in Alberta>
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,580 Points:1,605,520 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 2:54:59 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse mainen: no, it will work if you live close to a station that sells CNG. But you can have a storage tank in your backyard and that can be filled w/ either CNG or LPG.
mainenightowl All-Star Author Maine Posts:854 Points:302,420 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 6:54:07 AM Ignore mainenightowl Report Abuse Won't this only work for people who live near a natural gas pipeline? The only other way to obtain the natural gas is to have a storage tank and have it trucked out to them.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,580 Points:1,605,520 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:01:24 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse Canuck: that's b/c it's a GB "gods" blog.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,580 Points:1,605,520 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:00:13 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse 55mpg: you don't have to keep it in your house. You can always have an external storage tank.
slowtrain Champion Author Georgia Posts:3,642 Points:943,925 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 2:53:48 PM Ignore slowtrain Report Abuse Sounds good until natural gas prices skyrocket.
Canucktree Champion Author Alberta Posts:4,876 Points:1,016,625 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 4:50:58 AM Ignore Canucktree Report Abuse 55 votes?!
jethro5000 Champion Author Kentucky Posts:1,857 Points:387,235 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 4:08:45 AM Ignore jethro5000 Report Abuse Why?
jethro5000 Champion Author Kentucky Posts:1,857 Points:387,235 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 3:50:41 AM Ignore jethro5000 Report Abuse Pk
remay Champion Author Houston Posts:6,943 Points:2,113,390 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 3:25:44 AM Ignore remay Report Abuse Give me an incentive to do it, I would really consider converting my Honda Civic!
PCWHIZ All-Star Author Denver Posts:573 Points:436,800 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 3:23:11 AM Ignore PCWHIZ Report Abuse I have plenty of natural gas, to bad it can't be used in vehicles.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,580 Points:1,605,520 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 2:51:13 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse time will tell how CNG does.
52MPG Champion Author Dayton Posts:7,242 Points:1,737,705 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 12:56:56 AM Ignore 52MPG Report Abuse I do not want CNG in my house.
bston Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:1,800 Points:638,275 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 9:45:43 PM Ignore bston Report Abuse Sad to think of how much energy revolves around & dictates much of our lives!
CVA19 Champion Author Salem Posts:2,393 Points:606,100 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 6:23:43 PM Ignore CVA19 Report Abuse A compressor at $500 sounds a lot better than the $2000-$4000 compressors of a year ago. Hopefully, this price involves only private investment and public funds. Enough of the taxpayer-funded grants, loans and tax-credits.
captcarl5 Veteran Author Pennsylvania Posts:386 Points:171,130 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 11:30:22 AM Ignore captcarl5 Report Abuse Wish there were more options for these vars/trucks
rrs517 All-Star Author Colorado Posts:908 Points:340,705 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 11:18:14 AM Ignore rrs517 Report Abuse Old news
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:32,917 Points:2,341,510 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 10:04:36 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse At-Home Refueling with compressed natural gas (CNG)? $500 for the refill unit sounds like a good price, add to that the cost of installation too. Honda has the Civic GX, a natural gas fuel vehicle. Honda had a refill kit for the home natural gas pipeline and you could refill it up at home but the refill kit from Honda was very expensive, much more than $500, it's now been discontinued. Honda also offers a $3,000 gas card with the purchase of a GX vehicle. The mpg will Not be as good as gasoline, less BTU's and not as much energy as gasoline or diesel fuel. The full article shows a vehicle refueling in the garage, there should be ADEQUATE VENTILATION provided in an enclosed space when this is happening! Add solar panels and wind turbines on the house roof to recharge the battery on that EV or Inbred some people may have. As more and more vehicles are built to use natural gas OR converted over to natural gas, more natural gas will be used and the price will go up, just like the morning sun. Don't expect natural gas to stay low for very long, the trend for all fuel prices is always up and up more! It does Not matter if you have to heat your house with it either, higher natural gas prices coming. An article on here said that less natural gas is being produced because there is NO profit to keep drilling and producing natural gas. Big Oil and Big Gas exports fuel and natural gas to other countries that will pay more for it, much more than here. There will be NO price reduction or cheaper prices for fuel or natural gas IN the US, so it does NOT matter how much crude oil or natural gas is produced. If you are traveling, know where your natural gas refill stations are and plan according. There are many online sites that have CNG refill stations located across the US for people that have to refill their CNG vehicles. Plan your trip with those stations on the route. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, vehicle manufactures Produce and the population ‘Drives’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! XII/XXII/MMXII!
myambro Champion Author Sacramento Posts:3,194 Points:1,049,375 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 9:26:19 AM Ignore myambro Report Abuse Ralph Nader and the safety nazis will stop this because it can't be guaranteed to be safe it a (non-union) non-professional handles this hazardous material. The Enviros will stop this because a (non-union) non-professional may allow some gas to leak into the atmosphere and harm the environment.
Digger52 Champion Author Chicago Posts:2,387 Points:844,935 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 9:19:07 AM Ignore Digger52 Report Abuse Could be interesting. . .
mageetp Champion Author British Columbia Posts:3,190 Points:622,630 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 9:15:45 AM Ignore mageetp Report Abuse Good plan, now we can set up our own station and sell to others when they require a fill up.
jpj23 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:5,695 Points:1,096,675 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 9:11:35 AM Ignore jpj23 Report Abuse That could solve some of infrastructure dilemma for people who want to consider getting a CNG vehicle, but there still needs to be CNG filling stations along major highways between cities. Could you take a CNG vehicle to Yellowstone National Park and find ways to refuel along the way? When the answer to that is "yes" I'll consider a CNG vehicle.
fullauto Champion Author Reading Posts:5,300 Points:1,468,065 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 9:05:09 AM Ignore fullauto Report Abuse boom,boom,boom,boom.
GRUMPY55 Champion Author California Posts:1,619 Points:421,450 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 9:04:48 AM Ignore GRUMPY55 Report Abuse Sounds good.
Bigtex09 Champion Author Dallas Posts:4,268 Points:1,155,285 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 9:02:03 AM Ignore Bigtex09 Report Abuse I like this very much, hope my neighbors don't start filling up in my driveway when i am at work!
rwrMO Champion Author Missouri Posts:2,546 Points:581,170 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 9:01:52 AM Ignore rwrMO Report Abuse ok
homespesial All-Star Author Seattle Posts:710 Points:153,245 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 9:00:43 AM Ignore homespesial Report Abuse good idea
albert2008 Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:7,332 Points:1,477,010 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 9:00:28 AM Ignore albert2008 Report Abuse at home fueling sounds good but its eazy to lose track of how much we use
chillyman3 Champion Author Illinois Posts:1,349 Points:421,065 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 8:58:49 AM Ignore chillyman3 Report Abuse look at back to the future movie. What about using our garbage for fuel?...Now that's a BIG JOKE!!
bra0712 Champion Author Arizona Posts:3,649 Points:764,795 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 8:58:06 AM Ignore bra0712 Report Abuse Sounds expensive and dangerous
bigsranch Champion Author Houston Posts:3,126 Points:1,001,480 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 8:57:31 AM Ignore bigsranch Report Abuse Still doesn't explain why fleets aren't converting to CNG when they can refuel in the same place each day (either at their home base or a local CNG fuel center).
BigKart All-Star Author Indianapolis Posts:748 Points:221,370 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 8:55:26 AM Ignore BigKart Report Abuse Everyone needs a complete gas station in their garage, don't they? And when we're traveling and need more fuel (because VERY few places will fill your car with CNG), we can just stop at someone else's garage, I guess! As for how the govt will collect road use taxes... think "OnStar". Ford has their version incorporated in Sync, too. Don't know about the others. One of these days, they'll just send you a quarterly bill. Just don't expect gasoline prices to go down when that happens: they won't!
#12#_vabchusa All-Star Author Virginia Posts:742 Points:87,795 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 8:55:25 AM Ignore #12#_vabchusa Report Abuse Good deal and how much is this going to cost us
Melven Champion Author Utah Posts:4,083 Points:1,485,040 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 8:55:18 AM Ignore Melven Report Abuse Old news
DanMtz Champion Author Oakland Posts:3,335 Points:1,239,425 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 8:52:54 AM Ignore DanMtz Report Abuse Sounds good. That is, as long as the neighbors aren't doing it...
adhunt Veteran Author Chattanooga Posts:352 Points:974,215 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 8:50:21 AM Ignore adhunt Report Abuse Shouldn't be hard to accomplish
NanookAK Champion Author Anchorage Posts:7,228 Points:1,437,015 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 8:49:42 AM Ignore NanookAK Report Abuse Great idea. Now let's make some vehicles that use natural gas.
MightyDude Champion Author Minnesota Posts:10,329 Points:2,644,745 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 8:47:41 AM Ignore MightyDude Report Abuse sounds interesting, hope it works
driveonby1 Champion Author Toledo Posts:1,507 Points:256,665 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 8:46:57 AM Ignore driveonby1 Report Abuse Get on with it!
bullfrog69 Champion Author Texas Posts:2,304 Points:831,260 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 8:45:26 AM Ignore bullfrog69 Report Abuse Ancient News! Get with the program!
smoketown Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:6,216 Points:1,378,850 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 8:44:46 AM Ignore smoketown Report Abuse Opps, I smell a gas leak..........
bmsgolf Champion Author Amarillo Posts:2,027 Points:450,255 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 8:42:17 AM Ignore bmsgolf Report Abuse They better make it idiot proof!!!!
flatrock14 Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,630 Points:772,780 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 8:41:58 AM Ignore flatrock14 Report Abuse good idea
WGW1 Champion Author British Columbia Posts:1,227 Points:386,215 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 8:41:55 AM Ignore WGW1 Report Abuse Good add on value.
HEBster Champion Author Kentucky Posts:8,768 Points:2,370,025 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 8:40:46 AM Ignore HEBster Report Abuse Like
BAJALRRP Veteran Author Tacoma Posts:431 Points:1,260,635 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 8:37:50 AM Ignore BAJALRRP Report Abuse They already sell this device in Canada....
sciotosix Champion Author Dayton Posts:2,729 Points:662,125 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 8:37:40 AM Ignore sciotosix Report Abuse Great idea until someone blows up his house.
firechief Champion Author New York Posts:3,426 Points:2,063,125 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 8:37:02 AM Ignore firechief Report Abuse we had this story already
Toppers Champion Author Atlanta Posts:8,992 Points:2,466,695 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 8:37:00 AM Ignore Toppers Report Abuse Keep up the R&D
kuma2000 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,203 Points:670,150 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 8:34:16 AM Ignore kuma2000 Report Abuse This sounds like a great idea - the convenience of recharging at home.