SISI2013

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Portland
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 2:59:18 AM
They are running out of ways to tax people!!
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jeskibuff

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Dec 9, 2012 3:59:26 AM
hmw10284 said: "Fascist Oregon is at it again. Tracking their citizens movements."
It's not just Oregon. Look what the Obozo administration is pushing.
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jeskibuff

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Dec 9, 2012 3:52:48 AM
Bud122CA said: "What will they think of next? Everytime you flush the toilet you are taxed??"
If Obozo read that, you'd see a light bulb suddenly appear above his head!
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FusionCa

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 5:36:19 PM
Something To Think About.
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tz2001

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 9:41:48 AM
The citizens of Oregon have a chance to vote out their state representatives if they don't like the plan. I can only assume that the majority of Oregonians like the plan. Another point: does the state drop the sales tax on gasoline if they implement the miles tax?
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 2:56:07 AM
another big brother situation?
And those who get 40 mpg get screwed more, right?
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MrPony

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 9:19:58 PM
Tax, Baby, Tax
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roadrunnin

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Richmond
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 8:17:15 PM
so we get fuel efficient vehicles but get hit harder in the pocketbook
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Dodge_Me

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 7:23:48 PM
Just wrong
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07skydriver

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 6:18:42 PM
Just stay home.
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DanMtz

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 4:59:28 PM
I'm OK with it, but I can see why someone would object.
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Gary9696

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 4:33:59 PM
Would like to find out how the test goes.
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NedW

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 4:10:01 PM
What's up with the left coast?
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hmw10284

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California
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 3:57:48 PM
Fascist Oregon is at it again. Tracking their citizens movements. i might sign up though because i only drive about 20 miles per week.
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skidsteer85xt

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 2:25:21 PM
Not sure about this.
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777777777

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Nevada
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 12:48:26 PM
I don't like this idea.
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40mpgsaturn

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Wisconsin
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 12:24:13 PM
I wonder who would pay for my 21yr old (broke)college student???
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rual817

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 12:20:09 PM
You will see people from near-by Washington, Idaho, Nevada and California cruising into Oregon for cheaper fuel. And people from Oregon NEVER wanting to leave the State for fear of dbl tax.
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RichFWA

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Tacoma
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:59:25 AM
what happens when you travel out of state? do you still pay tax on those miles?
[Edited by: RichFWA at 12/4/2012 3:04:23 PM EST]
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ObieDog

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:53:59 AM
Change sure does make people cranky.
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LIQUIDEVIL

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Nashville
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:44:53 AM
Well, as for out-of-state drivers, they pay taxes to the state as well, in the form of hotel taxes and sales tax based on money spent. Visitors may not be paying in the same form as residents of Oregon, but paying and helping in a smaller percentage according to the time spent in the state.
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Cheepo

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:42:26 AM
Don't we pay enough taxes already????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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rrrrick

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Las Vegas
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:28:24 AM
Just adding another foreign middleman to the tax collection to get their cut of our US dollars Sanef
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JagXKR

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British Columbia
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:24:39 AM
I like the idea for golf carts as they don't buy fuel but use the roads. When fuel cell vehicles become the norm something like this may have to be done.
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Blossomize

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:59:03 AM
I don't see how this is going to work
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s6sputnik

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Austin
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:58:21 AM
Toll road!
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Settjec

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Little Rock
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:58:18 AM
That's our political gestapo for you
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bwp9970

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Alabama
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:58:00 AM
Really?
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CaliberMan71

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:56:44 AM
That will only cause a drop in travel.
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condé

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:55:59 AM
Dumb... If they would just tax the elected officals on the dumb thing they do and say the problem would be solved, No Kidding!!!!
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Buck_on_Bass

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:55:53 AM
The per-mile system works with alternate energy vehicles that don't get their 'fuel' from a pump where the tax is added to the cost of the fuel. The flat charge may work on old vehicles without an OBD2 port. It gets around the odometer reading question of accuracy. It addresses concerns of tracking with GPS. With a small tweak to the OBD2 module, reading the mileage may be a feature that could be include in a vehicle inspection system. I have an annual emissions inspection in which my mileage is recorded.
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Lakeficsh

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:54:33 AM
WTF!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah.....Oree-Goons!
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SandeeC

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:54:26 AM
Old news but as I said before, they've got to do what they've got to do to get the money they need. But, as someone said the other day re this, hope they really DO use the money for roads and infrastructure and not for other things as they often do.
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IMLURCH

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:53:40 AM
But if you live in Oregon and drive to several other states on a regular basis you are paying twice. In Oregon for the miles you totally drive and in other states by paying at the pump. If all states did it how would the collect the taxes for the other states you drove in.
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mightyace

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:53:18 AM
@MDTDriver Never leave your house, save even more....
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rampower80

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:52:40 AM
Big Brother is watching!
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Cellsite

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Appleton
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:52:27 AM
Right on, @pliskin. Check out the Marxist teachings he was exposed to in college and wholly endorsed.
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MDTDriver

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California
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:50:36 AM
Never leave your city, save money.
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checkitnow

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:47:26 AM
old..
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siralexe

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:46:01 AM
Should be. Will they take all the tax off of the fuel though
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Xpoint

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Idaho
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:45:03 AM
Stupid.
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pliskin

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Syracuse
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:43:40 AM
Old news but worth paying attention to. States taking the place of Big Brother in Washington! Federal taxes going up,states raising and conjuring up new consumption taxes. What are they headed toward, keeping our income and doling us out a bit at a time like Public Assistance? The President has already said, and believes, that the Federal Govt. can take care of us all(re: 1984)!
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lasriog

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Texas
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:43:32 AM
I agree lily what about out of state travels driving through or visiting the state
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Bud122CA

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California
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:42:50 AM
Just what we need is more taxes. What will they think of next? Everytime you flush the toilet you are taxed??
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Lilybird1212

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Idaho
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:40:38 AM
In some ways this makes sense. The people using the roads most would be paying for the repairs. Not sure how you collect from the out of state drivers though.
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ftsgt

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:38:22 AM
It could save you some money but at what cost??
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belladog

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Mobile
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:37:40 AM
rerun
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11SilveradoMN

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:37:22 AM
I wish someone else was heading this up.
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Ram4Sam

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San Bernardino
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:36:56 AM
It's called californication of oregon......
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FrankTA2

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New York
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:36:54 AM
I don't like the idea.
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