USMCturtlehead

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2013 12:04:30 AM
I guess I should be happy because my 1998 Oldsmobile Delta 88 Has averaged 25.4 MPG for thelast 14 years.
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moose21040

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Baltimore
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 8:05:07 AM
Ford makes a care that gets 65 miles to the gallon but they cant sell it in the US.GO figure
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Feb 6, 2013 9:01:36 PM
whoopeee... what a lovely lying w/ numbers.
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LuckyLou1

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Colorado
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Message Posted: Feb 6, 2013 7:45:24 PM
Don't need a coffin when your in a car meeting CAFE standards
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HawaiianGuy

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Idaho
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 9:35:11 PM
And are the fuel economies determined using ethanol-contaminated gasoline or pure gasoline?
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Ray_10589

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New York
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:08:51 PM
not good enough
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bell05

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 2:54:32 PM
Hey tomok, still a lot of pick ups out there.
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tomok

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Portland
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 1:50:51 PM
Fuel economy of new vehicles at a new record high of 24.5 mpg? This seems like a very low mpg for new vehicles? I got 32mpg with my '79 Honda Civic CVCC, is the average too low or are people still driving too many gas guzzlers? Drive vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
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La_Reyna_Flor

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Texas
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 1:22:28 PM
My '84 gets 27 on the highway and 30 in the city...can't complain.
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EMoe57

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Jacksonville
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 1:07:39 PM
YEAH!
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GatorGuy

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Columbia
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 12:57:24 PM
not that we can afford the new cars these days...
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Cheepo

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 11:41:36 AM
My old clunker is doing 24 mpg!!!!
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BigKart

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 9:22:02 AM
I'm curious whether Ford is going to prove their EPA claims on the new hybrids or whether they're going to be sending out prepaid VISA cards soon, too.
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indrix

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 9:21:19 AM
Not impressed, as someone here commented before, it's the real-life driving that really counts.
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myambro

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 9:18:25 AM
Now, may I please have my 300hp minivan that gets 30+ mpg and runs on natural gas or bio-diesel?
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Topless2012

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 9:09:04 AM
Going lighter is not the total answer. Weight is needed for safe driving. in winter.
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CyclistMO

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 9:06:33 AM
And if we convert from auto components to lightweight carbon fiber, cars will reduce their weight up to 50 percent -- leading to highly improved fuel economy.
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Wildman14

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 9:04:35 AM
I have CNG vehicles that are sixteen years old that get better mileage thatn thatt. What a joke. Welcome back to the future. (Yes, I keep a log book in each.)
[Edited by: Wildman14 at 2/5/2013 12:05:42 PM EST]
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Wildman14

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 9:04:18 AM
I have CNG vehicles that are sixteen years old that get better mileage thatn thatt. What a joke. Welcome back to the future. (Yes, I keep a log book in each.)
[Edited by: Wildman14 at 2/5/2013 12:05:25 PM EST]
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sciotosix

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 9:03:48 AM
Encouraging news, but we do a lot better than that.
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Ready Eddie

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 9:02:26 AM
Wow, up only a few miles per gallon in 50 years. Catch up please.
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dieselme2011

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Vancouver
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:59:50 AM
I think it's impossible to get the mileage that are posted on window stickers of new vehicles. I own a Hyundai and I get a prepaid Visa card from them for lying about mileage claims, and there new ratings our still impossible to get.
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NorthglennBill

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Denver
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:58:27 AM
But at what cost? No more spare tire, plastic everywhere, computers that often fail. Does it really all make sense?
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OnEmptyMO

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:56:11 AM
Whatever...most of these numbers a normal driver could not reach.
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NanookAK

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Anchorage
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:55:29 AM
You're kidding
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q2

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Alberta
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:54:59 AM
24.5 that is embarrassing
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gamalerin

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:52:34 AM
It suppose to be 54 not 24
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CorvairHaven

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:51:18 AM
Whoop-de-do. How about real-life driving mpg?
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Red7002011

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:49:39 AM
Really!
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Alfied

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:48:34 AM
Long way to go. 55, I don't think so unless we all start walking.
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njerald

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:45:56 AM
Liberal govt control............
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Zackny

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New York
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:45:18 AM
ok
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Bigtex09

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:45:03 AM
yea, tested all down hill!
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Catfish93001

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Ventura
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:44:30 AM
This is nuts, I had a 1988 Mercury Tracer that got about 38 mpg if I wasn't lead-footing it. That was 25 years ago!
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032946

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:44:18 AM
That is still a joke. In the days of huge battle ships, like the Ford Ltd, the Chev Capreiece, the Lincoln Town car, The Chrysler Imperial, and the Olds Cutlass supreme, those big carburated boats, got 20 MPG and a little more.
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crusader1975

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Louisiana
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:42:30 AM
I think they can do better
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slvrdo_dsprdo

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Nashville
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:41:29 AM
It should be hitting a new record high constantly as older cars die and newer cars are produced. This is not news.
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NoSoup4U

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Raleigh
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:41:17 AM
Supply and demand should still somewhat bear on gas prices. If demand is down and supply is greater than demand, that SHOULD work to lower prices (other factors work to raise them).
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1cbjfan

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:40:04 AM
I don't believe anything that comes out of the state of M*ch*g*n. GO BUCKS!!!
However on a side note, increased MPG's result in less fuel usage, resulting in less demand. In turn, oil companies raise gas prices to make up for the reduced income. Win for the environment, loss for the consumer.
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furiousfowl

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:40:01 AM
cool
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HelenT

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Buffalo
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:39:18 AM
10 years ago toyotas were getting better than that.
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maciek

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:38:59 AM
You should not have to worry about fuel economy ... You should be able to drive what you want !
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BeaconLite

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Ottawa
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:38:45 AM
I hkope these are not Hyundai's.
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YLHandyman

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:38:30 AM
Now for lighter more unsafe cars
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PENNYPINCHR

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:37:26 AM
Interesting..............
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Dubya61

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:36:35 AM
Inflated ratings struggling to get to inflated CAFE standards. OK, that seems fair.
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Samo1961

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:36:25 AM
Not enough, we need lot more to show the middle finger to OPEC!!
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regout

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Quebec
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:35:31 AM
Good for the future.
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bluebird1

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:34:05 AM
Of course its based on the inflated ratings - & not even that of the new US stds of testing either. Wonder if it still excluded the flex-fuel vehicles like in the past!!!
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Wolfwings

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Delaware
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 8:32:49 AM
At what cost?
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