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Natural-Gas Cars to Get Home Fueling

Wall Street Journal -- Chesapeake Energy Corp CHK +0.93% . said it is working with General Electric Co GE -1.01% . and Whirlpool Corp WHR +0.49% . to develop a $500 appliance that will allow natural-gas powered cars to be refueled at their owners' homes.

The effort would be Oklahoma City-based Chesapeake's latest push to promote compressed natural gas as a mainstream fuel and boost its own sales. It is the first attempt at overcoming one of the biggest challenges in putting natural-gas powered cars on the road—convenient refueling.

Chesapeake and other natural gas producers have felt a cash crunch as a technology-led increase in natural gas production has led to a supply glut and brought prices to a decade-low in April. U.S. natural gas stockpiles were 3.929 trillion cubic feet last week, the highest level on

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,580 Points:1,605,520 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 3:12:45 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse CNG will stay a niche market unless more stations are put out so one can at least station hop.
Cheepo Champion Author Tampa Posts:9,879 Points:3,125,955 Joined:Apr 2003	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:44:38 AM Ignore Cheepo Report Abuse I am waiting for hydrogen!!!!!!!!
FNB1967 Champion Author Ontario Posts:1,812 Points:762,120 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 6:44:32 AM Ignore FNB1967 Report Abuse I'm on board
remay Champion Author Houston Posts:6,943 Points:2,113,390 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 3:45:08 AM Ignore remay Report Abuse Hmmm, putting the responsibility of maintenance and possibly repair on the individual?
MAC48 Champion Author Dallas Posts:1,546 Points:762,470 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 1:56:42 AM Ignore MAC48 Report Abuse If the bifuel pickups now being rolled out by Ford, GM and Chrysler prove to be economical, cost justified and practical for the average consumer, then we will take a good hard look at acquiring one the next time we need to buy a vehicle. If we do acquire a bifuel vehicle, it would seem to be safer and more practical to refuel the CNG vehicle fuel tank at a commercial fuelling pump where you can also fill up the gasoline fuel tank at the same time than to have a CNG compressor at home.
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:32,917 Points:2,341,510 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 1:53:33 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Natural-Gas Cars to Get Home Fueling, Honda has a CNG vehicle on the market for quite a while now – Honda Civic GX. Get a refill kit for the home natural gas pipeline and fill it up there. If you are traveling, know where your refill stations are and plan according. There are many online sites that have CNG refill stations located across the US for people that have to refill their CNG vehicles. Plan your trip with those stations on the route. As more and more vehicles are built to use natural gas OR converted over to natural gas, more natural gas will be used and the price will go up, just like the morning sun. Don't expect natural gas to stay low for very long, the trend for all fuel prices is always up and up! It does Not matter if you have to heat your house with it either, higher natural gas prices coming. An article on here said that less natural gas is being produced because there is NO profit to keep drilling and producing natural gas. Less CNG Supply, Higher NatGas prices coming! Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! XII/XXII/MMXII!
NOTSOGRN Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,055 Points:1,507,745 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:23:15 PM Ignore NOTSOGRN Report Abuse . . Amplion...Look to the East Coast water killed there too...let's not leave that out of your little list...
DrCashFlow Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:7,054 Points:1,623,325 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 10:10:29 PM Ignore DrCashFlow Report Abuse how much will it cost to run that appliance?
Amplion Champion Author Oregon Posts:6,746 Points:1,861,060 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 9:46:53 PM Ignore Amplion Report Abuse NATURAL GAS IS UNSAFE >>>>>>>>>>>> 2010 SanBruno EIGHT DEAD 2011 ALLENTOWN FIVE DEAD 2012 COLORADO FIVE to the HOSPITAL 2012 INDIANA TWO DEAD NG SAFETY PROBLEMS NEVER END ...................
goldrose1 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:10,925 Points:1,920,910 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 9:43:18 PM Ignore goldrose1 Report Abuse This sounds like smart idea. Hope they get kinks out of technology.
1fulltank Champion Author Buffalo Posts:7,883 Points:1,540,310 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 9:41:15 PM Ignore 1fulltank Report Abuse Good, if done right; disastrous if done poorly and hastily.
CiVX Champion Author Oakland Posts:7,044 Points:1,356,035 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 9:18:30 PM Ignore CiVX Report Abuse This has potential.
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,830 Points:1,608,250 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 9:12:45 PM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse Consider the recent explosion in Indianapolis. Not yet proven but most likely caused by a natural gas leak. I’m not having any of that stuff around my house!!
Number43 Champion Author Lexington Posts:8,672 Points:1,634,110 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 9:09:32 PM Ignore Number43 Report Abuse I really like that idea but I don't have natural gas at home.
N5EXY Champion Author Austin Posts:5,472 Points:1,506,380 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 9:06:09 PM Ignore N5EXY Report Abuse YeahBut - - what if you run out of gas away from home?
farn1958 All-Star Author Twin Cities Posts:886 Points:183,385 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 9:03:14 PM Ignore farn1958 Report Abuse providing you have natural gas available.
Thomtec Champion Author Nashville Posts:2,443 Points:604,145 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 9:00:46 PM Ignore Thomtec Report Abuse Great idea.
shields9 Rookie Author Denver Posts:9 Points:3,930 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:57:41 PM Ignore shields9 Report Abuse good idea!
gd83goldwinger Champion Author South Bend Posts:1,428 Points:501,230 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:56:36 PM Ignore gd83goldwinger Report Abuse K
suzmar Champion Author Texas Posts:2,208 Points:869,060 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:54:29 PM Ignore suzmar Report Abuse That sounds like a good idea.
arb0526 Champion Author Greensboro Posts:1,956 Points:406,620 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:52:28 PM Ignore arb0526 Report Abuse Doesn't CNG take a lot of time to put in a tank?
dcone2 All-Star Author Los Angeles Posts:899 Points:80,635 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:50:43 PM Ignore dcone2 Report Abuse ok
69Bonne Champion Author Gary Posts:1,130 Points:469,150 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:48:00 PM Ignore 69Bonne Report Abuse Ok
BMWer Champion Author Calgary Posts:2,061 Points:1,661,795 Joined:Dec 2003	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:47:11 PM Ignore BMWer Report Abuse This makes sense..
Mr_Bill_W All-Star Author Virginia Posts:566 Points:355,260 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:45:46 PM Ignore Mr_Bill_W Report Abuse That's a good place to start but public infrastructure is essential to the success and mainstreaming of the CNG technology...
NemoIL Champion Author Illinois Posts:3,005 Points:1,309,220 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:42:23 PM Ignore NemoIL Report Abuse Good news.
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:5,976 Points:1,109,335 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:37:03 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse Chesapeake should also start placing NG tanks at all truck stops???
jimpricehunter Sophomore Author Dallas Posts:238 Points:147,180 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:35:56 PM Ignore jimpricehunter Report Abuse "OGW": Not only expensive for their usefulness and inconvenient but from plenty of my personal experience I consider them too dangerous for most people to use!
carloco75 Champion Author Richmond Posts:3,699 Points:596,465 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:35:33 PM Ignore carloco75 Report Abuse that's interesting...I'll keep my diésel for a few more years...8 or so...by than NCg...I hardly trust...will be available as much as regular gasOkrap and diésel...
mcmonsta Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,212 Points:814,770 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:34:42 PM Ignore mcmonsta Report Abuse easier to fuel can make a difference, but the cost to retro may be a killer
pinkelefant Champion Author Sacramento Posts:19,566 Points:2,656,605 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:33:27 PM Ignore pinkelefant Report Abuse I have a lot of natural gas.
The_DR Champion Author New Jersey Posts:2,760 Points:580,540 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:32:32 PM Ignore The_DR Report Abuse ok
Mariuxus Champion Author Chicago Posts:3,740 Points:1,866,315 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:32:31 PM Ignore Mariuxus Report Abuse ok...good luck...
OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,324 Points:1,529,650 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:31:01 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse These home based filling adapters have been available from most utility companies for years. Natural gas vehicles and home based filling are old news as are CNG vehicles and they are not worth the purchase but all the clowns will jump on the bandwagon like they di 10 years ago and find out they are not so great. They need to bulid a new engine that is specific to CNG and not use the conversion kits to make a gas engine run on CNG, not good!
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,043 Points:1,727,235 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:29:11 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse great idea
WIPACKERFAN Champion Author Chicago Posts:8,779 Points:1,838,475 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:27:38 PM Ignore WIPACKERFAN Report Abuse Good idea.
pgerassi Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:10,876 Points:2,127,605 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:25:32 PM Ignore pgerassi Report Abuse Good!
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,902 Points:1,570,980 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:18:34 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse we need to use more natural gas
danmc87 Sophomore Author North Carolina Posts:112 Points:560,630 Joined:Sep 2010	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:18:17 PM Ignore danmc87 Report Abuse Home Sweet Home!
danreino Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:8,337 Points:1,537,705 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:13:01 PM Ignore danreino Report Abuse But the EPA cannot allow that. That would employ logic and reason.
dumba55 Sophomore Author Chicago Posts:142 Points:37,225 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:12:56 PM Ignore dumba55 Report Abuse kool
Mudsprings Champion Author Fresno Posts:52,854 Points:3,070,300 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:12:02 PM Ignore Mudsprings Report Abuse Won't work for me. We use propane here in the mountains.
SavALot Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:8,454 Points:1,707,835 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:11:23 PM Ignore SavALot Report Abuse Let me just tap into the natural gas reserve I have at home
vibdata Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:4,074 Points:846,275 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:07:54 PM Ignore vibdata Report Abuse I know one thing for sure. This sounds like a very BAAAAAAAAAAAAD idea. People are not allowed to re-fuel gasoline in their yard. CNG is just about a billion times worse. Lots of bombs going to go off.
munch252 Veteran Author Cleveland Posts:282 Points:135,985 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:07:00 PM Ignore munch252 Report Abuse don't put me down for one
serrog Champion Author Nova Scotia Posts:5,544 Points:1,508,130 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:06:19 PM Ignore serrog Report Abuse Nothing to me
drz614 Champion Author Harrisburg Posts:2,279 Points:594,370 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:05:33 PM Ignore drz614 Report Abuse ok
s6sputnik Champion Author Austin Posts:6,209 Points:1,304,395 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:05:24 PM Ignore s6sputnik Report Abuse Good stuff!
MG_Sputnik Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:7,285 Points:1,956,405 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:04:29 PM Ignore MG_Sputnik Report Abuse Who cares?
rasmataz Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:9,009 Points:1,605,480 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:56:54 PM Ignore rasmataz Report Abuse Can only read the full article if I subscribe to Wall Street Journal. Would like to read it, but not for 22 dollars.